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  8. If you're doing the same, you'll need to learn more hanzi before you begin the sentences. You could go to this site and learn all the hanzi you don't know by the time you finish Heisig it should be no problem to do this. Or you could use Harbaugh's book online here and learn all of those total of hanzi , making sure to learn the simplified version when listed. After you're done learning characters you'll never really be done, but good enough to last you a while , you'd move on to sentences.

    I like the idea HerrPetersen mentioned of using Assimil sentences for your first batch. You could even use the course as prescribed in the manual, and also add sentences to your SRS I'd recommend that. Then you should be more or less ready for native material and monolingual dictionaries resorting to bilingual dictionaries when necessary. As roddy mentioned, speaking and listening are a concern. Just expose yourself to as much Chinese material as possible.

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    Stuff aimed at learners is OK in the beginning but you should move to native-only ASAP, even if you don't understand it all, or even most of it. Exposure to the language is key if you want to progress. I would stop there right now and go on with something else. Yes, Assimil is quite good and I like their format too. I specially like that their CDs are English free. They are all the same.

    At the same time I would go on and do something that associates the characters with sound. They are well below characters around they claim , but that's good enough for a start. It teaches the sounds too, and even hast stories to remember the sounds. I did the Matthews book and a couple of hundred more characters after that I know characters. I disagree with this, you should know most of the Hanzi that are in the beginner textbooks and you can always learn those you don't know. It will also solidify the characters you have already learned.

    Then I'll do a new batch of characters. I guess it depends on your preferences. There isn't a right or wrong way to do things. In Japanese you learn the Joyo kanji before you start any sentences. It would only make sense to learn a comparable amount of hanzi for Chinese, and since Chinese is ALL hanzi and uses more of them, it would only make sense to learn a bigger chunk of characters again, if you're following the AJATT method to the letter rather than just borrowing from it. This way you can move on to real, native material sooner rather than using textbooks.

    So yes, it is up to the individual to decide. Where did you read that? It doesn't really make sense to me. He had already learned all characters at zhongwen. Maybe that's where I'm not communicating well. The immersion method is one thing, but AJATT is a very specific method that is laid out pretty clearly here. And this chart clearly separates the Kanji and Sentences phases. But like I said, there's no right or wrong way. There are certainly different ways to do "immersion. I'm not saying you can't adapt it and do it the way you mean, but that's what it is: It took me a while.

    At about I started learning sentences and doing characters at the same time. Thats more than enough to start learning sentences and the actual language and still be following the AJATT method: He learned before he started learning sentences with Japanese. That's quite a bit more than the in Heisig's book. I don't believe it is. I suggested learning more and mentioned one source that has and one that has You told me you disagreed. Now you're agreeing with me. Still, is quite a bit more than and that would do just fine.

    But as we both mentioned, you would have to learn more characters later on. But I think the more you learn up front the better, so you can start pulling sentences from just about any native source without having to worry about there being so many characters you don't know yet.

    Hehe I do agree with you that the more you know up front, the easier it is to learn vocabulary and sentences. Also, for me, I have been living in Shanghai for over a year now, so it was out of necessity that I started sentences earlier. Anyways I think we agree on most points and that personal preference and circumstances will dictate how one utilizes immersion methods: I'll probably do before sentences and then learn the rest on the side as I go. PS - Back to your regularly scheduled thread. You'll be learning from a lot of strange sentences if you expect to need characters before you start.

    I'd imagine that characters can cover everything you need for enough exposure you need to learn from context, and if you chose your corpus well, far less than that. With you can do already quiet some stuff and you have a chance to see that the Heisig-way actually does work for you and Chinese. Also, once you see the hanzi in action - they are really burned into your mind. Thanks everyone for the comments and interesting discussion, some great advise. I plan to use it well into the future. After about , I noticed to could make reasonable sense of some areas of magazines and newspapers with pictures.

    I have started to circle and collect common words from the characters so far and might put them in another list in mnemo soon. Have also started adding the reverse cards from the earlier chapters, and putting in the pronunciation. Most wrong answers are easy to fix with some adjustment to the 'mental story'.